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NO. 156 VOLUME 14 ISSUE 1 /2008 FROM JANUARY 11 2008 · PUBLISHED MONTHLY · 1 EURO
4 »Affected mentality is 7 3 years Hartz IV - 3 years 13
fatal signal to investors "
SPD Eberswalde on waste incineration
Eberswalder Monday demonstration
"Doer" and "Preventer"
The Braess Paradox
The year of mathematics in the BBP
On the 18th January the deadline for objections to the regional planning procedure (ROV) for Finow airfield ends. The
The city of Eberswalde was granted an extension to the end of the month. After the discussion in the committee for
Construction, planning and environment on 8. January, the city councilors will be on 24. January decide on their opinion. Meanwhile
the aerodrome proponents stir the advertising drum properly, while there is a lot of discussion in various rounds.
It is amazing that the charlatans brought into the world years ago
Illusions of a prosperous, job-creating,
economic boom and so on regional airport
still find an enthusiastic audience. With a
Neither Josef at the time could understand a comprehensible economic concept
Brandstetter still await his current successors. In lighting the sparkler
however, both have what it takes.
Brandstetter had bribed the then mayor who gave him
11 years ago 3.25 million marks on the Christmas plate
put. He had already received the airfield as a gift at the beginning of 1996.
The alleged sale remained a sham deal. Have the losses
the city's own technical works are now commercially correct
written off. Nobody was ever made responsible for it.
Compared to Brandstetter, today's operators are reputable
Merchants. They certainly also have an economic concept
for their aerodrome commitment. That they don't get that on everyone's nose
bind is understandable. But if you can add 1 and 1 together,
also gets behind it. In the "Barnimer Bürgerpost «became their concept
already disclosed years ago (»An industrial park with an airfield«,
BBP 12/2001 and »Flugplatz-Poker«, BBP 12/2007). Still missing
a proper road connection to the commercial area. should that
Airfield area as a result of the current ROV a publicly financed
The operator would get access in the private apartments
The champagne corks are probably already popping. First of all, it's about
the access via the already existing Realkaufstrasse. The discussed
Motorway access, however, should belong to the realm of dreams.
Also the connection via the Biesenthaler, which was believed to be safe
Street, which for ex-Mayor Schulz last "of the highest."
Priority «will probably not exist. The current draft of the transport development plan
the city of Eberswalde recommends doing without
on the expansion of the road from Finow to Biesenthal as well
on the connection of the airfield to Biesenthaler Straße. So will
also argued in the city's draft statement on the ROV.
The realities are known in the city administration. However, it works
the past. The visions of the »maker« Schulz are for
Partly become concrete reality and find yourself in the other part
still reflected in the urban concepts and models. Beton-Schulz
himself was only a representative of a group of profiteers
of »subsidy scrapping«. It wasn't until 5 past 12 that his supporters let him
falling like a hot potato. But of course I hope
the old lobby is still on a continuation of the old politics.
Economic development is also available from the newly elected mayor
at the top of the agenda. Admittedly by other means than with his
Predecessor, where communication mainly takes place in the back rooms of the bar
or worked in "Fit and Fun" at squash. Not all
are excited about the opening of the former exclusivity.
A year ago, the fight to keep the avenue near Rüdnitz was ours
Top topic. If the »makers« were successful, this beautiful photo would not exist
(More beautiful and in color on www.bar-blog.de).
In his first year in office, Mayor Boginski was two
faced major projects, in the implementation of which the breast of his
Predecessor would be swollen with pride. For example, the
planned hazardous waste incineration plant of the Steil company
the now visible successes of Schulz's infrastructure policy.
Also the planned expressway across the landscape and
belongs to the real needs of the people living here
the "positive" results of the politics of the Beton-Schulz era. It cost's
and costs efforts to prevent these projects.
And now the airfield project. Everyone really involved knows that
only foam is whipped here. But the old concrete lobby smells hers
Chance to continue playing the old game with the new mayor.
The stamp is ready to the mayor in the event of a negative
Opinion on the airfield ROV used the word »preventer«
to burn your forehead. Compare with the Eberswalder ancestors who
didn't want to know anything about the railway, have already moved.
The public realistically takes from the whole process
only marginal knowledge. Which in turn opens up opportunities for them
To present the fiction of the economic miracle as a generally accepted opinion.
Taking this into account, the design reads the urban
Opinion as a jubilant approval of a future regional airport.
The built-in toe bars, such as the required ban on the
Night flights - an important prerequisite for profitability
of the project - and the refused connection to the Biesenthaler
Road stay in the background.
The procedure is understandable. The danger remains that
whoever roars with the lions, possibly gets between the teeth.
For the new year
As the oldest city councilor in Eberswalde
since the first local election after the liberation
of the dictatorship of the »real existing
I wish all women citizens socialism
and citizens of our city a successful,
Happy New Year with the
permanent hope for further improvement
the living conditions for all people.
With the point of view of ethics and logic
we from the FDP will always be good
Keep an eye on ALL people. To
includes the promotion of industrial economy,
Trade, craft and culture alike
how to solve unemployment problems,
Poverty, child poverty, education, health
in the broadest sense as well as maintaining the
Nature as characteristics of ethics. The logic
forces us to all of this political happening
always to be designed in such a way that when the
Resources no minus occurs, i.e. debts,
that our children would have to pay later
be avoided. The liberal attitude towards
For me, politics means working with
all democratic forces in our city
for positive developments.
Dr. SIEGFRIED ADLER, pediatrician
Amen and alleluia
At the beginning of December we received the message
that the hazardous waste incineration plant
the Steil company was approved.
Didn't we expect it Wasn't
between hope and fear the certainty
The assurance that no opportunity is missed
is going to give lawyers their daily bread
and to hold up to the common people,
how insignificant his will is.
And with certainty I tell you, not a local politician,
whoever is self-sufficient becomes this
Let the opportunity pass by unused.
You will be interviewing with raised eyebrows
give and feel the well-padded
We all thank the State Environment Agency,
which is unparalleled in a dirt thrower
has given his blessing. And we thank the
Management of the company Theo Steil, which
that made everything possible
Let's pray: Scrap us who you are
in Trier, give us our daily wrecked car today,
let your shredder come to us and
turn it into electricity, thank you for that
Mercy with you 12 jobs
create and we take the air pollution,
that you give us without resistance.
Forgive us for trying to maintain our health
preserve as we forgive our own
State Environment Agency. Amen and alleluia
Advice for conscientious objectors
with Thomas Lehmann
in the meeting center "Paths to Nonviolence",
16225 Eberswalde, Brautstrasse 34, Tel. 03334/22398
The agreed rent index is insufficient
In the September-StVV was about the current
Rent index informs. We had to
Take note that this is just one
is not a qualified rent index,
which should also be valid indefinitely. Apart from that
of the fact that this contradicts the information,
as the next rent index a qualified one
we criticize the elaboration
an unqualified one, as unfavorable
for the tenants.
The important question to us is how it is at all
to an unqualified rent index
could come. We see two causes.
1. The lessor bias in the composition
of the committee that draws up the rent index.
This is how five landlord organizations worked
with, but with the Oberbarnimer tenants' association
only one representative of the tenants.
2. The Oberbarnimer tenants' association, which meanwhile
dissolved as a separate association and the
Tenants' association Viadrina Frankfurt / Oder and
Environment connected can only for that
Talk to tenants who are members of it
(and these are based on the total number of
Tenants the fewest) and for whom he then only
Can carry out individual consultations.
That requires changes. So we demand
In addition to the tenants' association, also the tenant interest representation
at the AfW in the committee
for the preparation of the rent index.
That would also have the advantage of being more comprehensive
To enable tenant representation, as our
Representation of tenants' interests is the solution
of fundamental problems in relation
Landlord-tenant sees it as a task.
Dr. GÜNTHER SPANGENBERG, AfW parliamentary group
"Golden chainsaw" to Deputy Councilor Bockhardt
On December 14th the Barnimhe
Tree protection trunk table Carsten Bockhardt
(CDU) as the winner of the »Golden Chainsaw
2007 «. This negative price should be annually in the future
for outstanding services against the
Tree and avenue protection are awarded.
The deputy councilor, at the same time acting head of economic affairs
in the district, and otherwise
the eternal second, finally has it
Made it: After various political and professional
Defeats were chosen by the »Barnimhe
Tree protection trunk table «to the winner. Bockhardt
had been particularly active in the felling of the
Allee Rüdnitz-Danewitz-L29 used.
“We have various politicians to choose from
District and state level nominated, which is made up of
our point of view especially against the
Protection of trees and avenues deserved ’
have «, says Stefan Stahlbaum, organizer
of Barnimhe tree protection trunk table. So came
next to the CDU politician transport minister
Reinhold Dellmann (SPD), Barnims District Administrator
Bodo Ihrke (SPD) and the member of the state parliament
Britta Stark (SPD) in the preselection.
Dr. Andreas Steiner reported on the month-long
Dispute with the district Barnim around
the clearing of a vital one several kilometers long
Old avenue on the road from
Rüdnitz to Danewitz and up to the L29.
Mainly responsible for the planned event
on the county road K6005 is
District Administrator Bodo Ihrke (SPD). But since this
mostly kept in the background, remembered
the Barnimhe tree protection trunk table
all too good at the questionable maneuvers
of the Deputy Councilor. In the conflict over the
Bockhardt bribed the preservation of the avenue near Rüdnitz
through a disastrous information policy,
consistently suppressed alternatives,
showed himself to be "resistant to advice" and defended himself
the beginning of the year in two instances as
illegally classified felling permit for
a good 700 vital trees to the end.
the CDU politician
on the plans for
Felling the avenue at
Ründnitz firmly. opposite
contrary to the LUA
Modest and contrary
Winner Bockhardt narrowly opposed
well-known competition. "Silver Medal Winner"
became Transport Minister Reinhold
Dellmann. This came as a client for the
new brandenburg avenue conception
"Strategy 21" came under fire. The concept which
by the experts now as the "avenue destruction concept"
is referred to, aims
on even avenues and on general
New plantings after general deforestation.
Especially for biotope network systems
valuable older parts of avenues
are thus in danger of falling victim to the chainsaw.
In contrast, tree gaps should be better
to be planted and old gnarled trees
are not only good for the environment, but
also for the landscape aesthetics and thus the
Attractiveness of the Barnimhe country was himself
the regulars' table agreed.
Britta Stark took the "bronze place". The
Panketal member of the state parliament is considered to be the
"Political mother" of the amended Brandenburger
Tree protection statute, on the basis of which
it has been in the Berlin area since 2004
Mass felling came. »The newer building lots
were mostly cleared completely. It's in the
got away a lot in the last few years, «criticized
The official award ceremony is for the start
planned for the coming year.
Barnimhe tree protection trunk table
On a bloody foundation
The Finower water tower and the Hirsch’s armory brass factory (part 2)
The official speeches on the occasion of the ceremonial opening of the renovated water tower
in Finow on December 4th left unmentioned what the economic fundamentals
were for the construction of the tower. The following is part 2 of the article by KURT BERUS,
which of the history of the Hirsch Kupfer- und Messingwerk AG (HKM) as an armory
tracked down for WW1.
The production already played in the beginning
of armaments plays an important role
in the development of the brass movement. The industrial
Development brought weapon technology
after the Bismarck Wars, which
accompanied the establishment of the German Empire,
an unprecedented boom.
Gustav Hirsch recognized the signs of the times.
The brass factory by Aron Hirsch & Sohn
became an important link in the
German war preparations.
In the mid-80s, reports the deer
Confided Robert Hensel in his memories,
the cell production was again
The Armaturenfabrik Polte joined the company
in Magdeburg Sudenberg decided to set up a cartridge factory
initially set up for infantry ammunition.
The company owner Polte was a good one
Gustav Hirsch's friend ... Furthermore, were
Of course, doing business with other companies and
Authorities completed ... In times of economic boom
were 500 - 600,000 cells a day
produced «14 punches were required for production
been set up. Besides, that was
Steam rolling mill »now from the manufacture of ordinary
commercial sheet metal relieved to
completely devoted to the manufacture of the cell production
dedicate needed strips to
can. ”It was the steam mill
a heavy roughing mill in which 3 - 4
normal rolling mills with a 120 HP engine
Wolff’s locomobile was driven.
In 1889 there was a »modern one on the Finow Canal
Cartridge Hut «erected. However, it is
the term misleading because there were only
Semi-finished parts - rondels and pans, none
finished cartridges produced. Also from about
1886 »... were also made by hydraulic presses
sucked Crown tubes made from copper washers.
These are very wide and thick-walled copper pipes,
from which narrow rings, so-called. Eyelid rings,
were stabbed. These rings served as
Guide rings for grenades. "It is interesting
that Hensel reports: “The pipe presses were
the first of their kind and stood in a special one
Room attached to the Rohrhütte. The
Workers employed at the presses were to
Committed to secrecy of their work. "
HKM has dubbed itself the largest since 1910
German factory for brass tubes. Now were
especially ship condenser tubes in Admiralty
Alloy (70% copper, 29% zinc, 1% tin)
manufactured, whereby the quality (no drawing marks)
the highest demands were made.
Sigmund Hirsch in retrospect: »A consolation
for the failure in the equipment of the giant passenger steamers
with our pipe was the delivery
the Reichsmarine, which at that time was under construction
was and for battleships, cruisers and torpedo boats
our pipe production employed ...
I kept in good contact with the people concerned
competent bodies of the Reichsmarineamt and
with his inspection officers ... "
From around 180 employees in 1870
the workforce increased to 950 workers by 1907.
Production had increased from 1865 to 1907
more than tenfold, from 408 to 5,463 tons
per year. Messingwerk was part of it
the "giant companies" like companies
1000 employees at the outbreak of war in 1914
were classified. »Seeger from the old rolling mill,
Hensel from the Drahthütte and Rieckl from the Patronenhütte,
all three masters had their big ones
Time. Ammunition strips for cups for cartridges,
Brass washers for artillery cases without specified
Quantities, just as much as possible! The
The extrusion and part press also had their time.
Round brass for artillery projectile case detonators,
which hit the part press in the die. Although
them to the utmost efficiency of the school squeeze
worked in three shifts, came in
much larger part of our round brass for detonators
to special factories. Charging strips were also used in
spring-hard brass required in large quantities. "
This is how S. Hirsch rejoiced in his review.
No wonder that at the rate of production
important material quickly became scarce.
So-called war societies were used to control it
built. The first was the on
Founded September 2, 1914 »Kriegsmetall
A.G. «, a stock corporation whose capital
in the amount of 6 million marks from 22
Large corporation was applied. And
Aron Hirsch was with these big industrialists
well known and so »the share
The company was founded in 1914
of the Kriegsmetall-Aktiengesellschaft in Berlin.
The company had already made it through for decades
so-called 'contingent contracts' with the government
for such exceptional cases «.
In addition, there were “mechanical devices
and metal supplies ... kept ready at all times «
been. I stood with full conviction
Hirsch on the »mobilization of all economic
Forces ... at the forefront right from the start
Row «, successfully used his long experience,
»To secure the metal supply, whereby it
it was necessary to close everything on metal-containing substances
capture what is happening within Germany's borders
was just somehow tangible. During processing
of the material it turned out to be extremely practical
and valuable that the Ilsenburg copper works its
Refiners at the service of this
Armaments work. «That was how 1915
the newly developed process of copper plating
applied by sheet iron and gondolas
and cups punched out of it.
For heavy physical work in brass works
fewer and fewer workers were available
Available. For this, Dutch, Danish
and other civilian workers brought in. S.
Hirsch gives over 1,000 obligated persons from others
Areas of Germany, 300 French
Prisoners of war, 45 Dutch and Danes, 80
Warsaw Jews, 300 young girls as
At the beginning of the war the monthly output was
1,400 t; in the second half of 1915
already 1,600 t made; in August 1916
1,900 t were produced with 2000 workers.
The absolute climax was in March 1917
achieved: 3,170 t. That was the reason for that
"Senior boss Aron Hirsch the so-called barrel clock",
to donate a pocket watch, »which is a large number
received from officials, masters and employees
and in which the corresponding services are engraved
That was when the cornerstone was laid
for the water tower and thanks to the
Hindenburg program on building a
new plant was decided. Résumé
von Sigmund Hirsch: »The great war production
had made the money for the investment.
She could be paid out of that, and that
was, in our opinion, its best use
in the best patriotic sense. "
What did this war bring to the people
of brass works and surrounding communities
Brass works alone with approx. 500 inhabitants
162 war deaths, iron cleavage 31 and
Heegermühle 216 war deaths, i.e. 409 war deaths
- 7 percent of the population.
The group leader smiled
Eberswalde (bbp). “Agreement against Steil-Anlage
crumbles «was the headline of the local daily newspaper after the
December meeting of the Eberswalder city council,
which three days after the first reports
on the decision of the State Environment Agency
in favor of the hazardous waste incineration plant
the company Steil took place. The
City administration had for the StVV meeting
on December 13th, in a hurry, two table templates
Developed. It was about the deferral
the building application and the authorization
the administration, »all required legal
Steps against approval to erect
and to operate «the hazardous waste incineration plant
The city councilors had table templates
bad experiences in the past
made. Concerns were understandable.
Understandable, too, that these concerns
have just been discussed in that parliamentary group
the table templates used to be common in earlier times
waved through. At least this time
had the SPD parliamentary group leader Peter Kikow
issued the order on behalf of his parliamentary group,
to vote against the table templates.
The Eberswalder local club provided backing
his party. The task for the SPD
Group in the StVV meeting on December 13th
to argue accordingly, took over
now deceased Christian Trill.
He found convincing arguments. About contradiction
inserting it, so Trill, suffices the existing one
Empowerment completely off. It is also
still enough in the first month of the new year
Time to file a possibly necessary lawsuit
prepare. He urged the city council
first the approval notice of the
To give notice to the State Environment Agency. Indeed
also had the at the time
City administration only in advance via an unofficial
Version of this permit. An official one
Passing on, so the fear of the urban
Legal office, could be in a lawsuit
possibly as a form error to the disadvantage
the city will be punished.
Despite all objections, the SPD
Speakers consider granting a
Authorization to the administration to bring an action
would go too far. It would be enough
once an objection has been lodged
will. Christian Trill earned his smile
Parliamentary group leaders.
A confused situation that was looming.
Volker Passoke from the parliamentary group of
Left finally delivered the liberating
Cross pass. Passoke requested that the passage »Die
In particular, the commissioning includes filing
an objection and the filing of a lawsuit ... «to
to brush. Trill picked up the ball immediately, probably
knowing that this passage does not mean the empowerment
the city administration, but rather
the limitation of this authorization
was deleted from the decision. His group leader
SPD Eberswalde on the hazardous waste incineration plant:
»Fatal signal to investors«
»The east of Brandenburg is a maximum EU subsidy area.
How much longer Eberswalde and the surrounding area
have one of the highest unemployment rates in Germany.
How long and how long
still! The new federal states are still like
before and for years to come from the richer ones
Additional regions of Germany and Europe
alimented. How much longer «With these questions
the spokesman for the local SPD association turns
Eberswalde Lorenz Engel to the readers of the website
of his local association.
But Eberswalde is also the core of growth
in the northeast of the Berlin-Brandenburg region
and thus not without a chance. From that
also announce the generally positive mood
in the city, but only as an advance
to understand the future. requirement
for economic strengthening of the region and
the city as the basis of an actual
Increasing the quality of life are »investments
and ultimately jobs «.
The tourist development of the Finow Canal
as well as the development of the Barnim as
According to Engel, the health region is important
and right building blocks. “But that's not what they are
alone blissful instrument to be more economical
Prosperity. «The city's economic tradition
Eberswalde has always been based on »since modern times
Value creation from and through industrial work,
which is complemented by services. Not from
"A big bad joke"
roughly Eberswalde had the nickname for a long time
‘Märkisches Wuppertal’, for which not a romantic one
Transfiguration is causal. «The discussion
around the eastward expansion of the B167 / new is »a
eloquent example of the dismay mentality "
in Eberswalde. “Shouldn't be in matters too
Theo Steil GmbH is now the authority of the State Environment Agency
pay attention and prefer the weight
the public to use the impairments
for the residents in cooperation with the
Keeping company as small as possible, maybe
also to gain some concessions
Approval procedure in a snap shot manner
and simply without any deeper legal discussions
as a breach of the law by the licensing authority
to look at is a fatal signal and represents
legal security as one of the highest goods
every society in question, of investor friendliness
not to mention. Whether the decision maker
the city will have more sense of proportion in the future
and will exercise a little more restraint,
also advantages and disadvantages for all emotional concerns
to weigh more rationally, it remains to be seen.
Particular interests, however justified they may be
like and how strongly they articulate themselves
like, shouldn't be the sole yardstick of the
The regional airport will be ready next year
on the agenda, ”said Engel at the end.
The approval of the Eberswalder hazardous waste incineration plant
by the State Environment Agency
Brandenburg under minimum requirements
is a big bad joke. Joe Bloggs
are wondering whether between the
Investor Theo Steil GmbH and the state authorities
This in particular was whispered
against the background, because by the State Environment Agency
Rhineland-Palatinate the operator
the construction of such a facility at the headquarters
Trier has already failed.
One thing is certain: In the Barnimhe brings region
such a hazardous waste incineration plant
only harm to humans and the environment, however
no use. Not even looking
on job creation. Because
such a system is far from equivalent
the principles of environmental sustainability,
Energy efficiency and innovation. Here should
Recyclable materials are destroyed from petroleum products
were manufactured. These could
but more sensible with new and better procedures
To conserve primary resources, would have to
in the sense of a closed cycle economy
the material, emission-free recycling
preferred to energy recovery
become. When burning old car parts
leave next to environmental toxins like
Fine dusts containing heavy metals, dioxins and
Furans produce significant amounts of carbon dioxide
the plant, which is made from non-renewable energy sources
come. The plant would thus
do not work CO2-neutrally. At a
It will be a low efficiency of 30%
Have energy efficiency. In addition, a power
Heat coupling not planned, the waste heat
could use. But it is inconceivable that
the operator with hazardous waste transports -
across the republic to the disposal site
in the state of Brandenburg - still funding
can sweep. A subsidized one
Garbage tourism to maximize profit from a
individual company, but against the
Will of the citizens, but may
cannot be realized. This would be counterproductive
Signal for a sustainable and future-oriented
Economic and environmental policy
in the country and not least incompatible with
the model of the city of Eberswalde. Complain
there will be different reasons for this
Dr. ANDREAS STEINER
Indecision means irresponsibility
In the residents question time of the city council
Eberswalde on December 13th
were made by residents of the city
Reactions of some parties regarding the
next local elections on the subject of »approval
the hazardous waste incineration plant of
Theo Steil company by the State Environment Agency «
criticized. Especially the undecided
Attitude of the SPD local group Eberswalde under
chaired by Daniel Kurth.
When voting on two motions from
City administration against the construction of the hazardous waste incineration plant
was made by mr
Christian Trill (SPD) triggered a discussion
which expressed in a nutshell
brings: »We have an opinion, but we
don't know which one is right «.
The MPs of the DIE LINKE party
applied for a secret to the applications
Poll. This happened in my opinion
after fearing the local elections im
next year and for fear of the company
Theo Steil. A rogue who thinks bad about it.
All city councilors would have only tactics
Voted yes would probably not be a secret one
Vote was required. With 2 votes against
and 7 abstentions
no supporter of the facility the "bad guys"
locate, sue, or award
overlooked by future assignments.
We citizens of the city of Eberswalde await
at least more responsibility from ours
Local politicians for the good of the people
The next local elections will be for
some politicians with this attitude the bill
Left reinsurance company
The State Environment Agency has the application of
Steil company for the construction of the hazardous waste incineration plant
approved - a shock for
the Eberswalder. Many had believed
that the will of the citizens, with 14,000 signatures
and massively raised 4,000 objections,
something still counts in this country.
»Not the State Environment Agency - the citizens' will
should decide «was written on one of the banners
the citizens' initiative for a healthy
Environment, the fight against the incinerator
organized. But the environmental agency
has decided and returned doing the
Problems with this system under the table.
When the topic of waste incineration plant in
the hot phase of the mayoral election campaign
Bursted in 2006, came the uncritical attitude
the city administration is heavily criticized.
The political forces looked for for that
Citizens Acceptable Positions. After the
The mayor was elected, the StVV unanimously agreed
Resolutions to the planning right
to secure the city. The State Environment Agency
now calls this right into question. Expect now
the citizens that the city is with all their might for
uses planning in the interests of the citizens.
When discussing relevant resolutions in
the city council on
December 13th, 2007, however, the closed one crumbled
Front of the city council.
On behalf of the Die Linke group, asked
Lawyer Volker Passoke around a ten minute
Break. He stated that the group
the secret ballot calls for. Who of the
Left special consequence in the fight for
who had expected citizens' interests was amazed
about the justification. It's about protection
of MPs who would otherwise be held liable
could become. The left held it
actually possible, for the decision
possibly held accountable too
or should be covered with it,
that there is a differentiated voting behavior in the parliamentary group
could give two dissenting votes
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