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ISTP in relation to ESTP

ESD_IDS

ESTP = ESD = E.xtraverted S.inner orientation with auxiliary function D.think

ISTP = IDS =I.introverted D.Environment orientation with auxiliary function S.inner sensation

Positive aspects

Their basic attitude is opposite: ESD has the main focus of life in the outside world, IDS in the inner world. But one important thing in common is that both orient themselves outwards with their sensory perceptions and inwards with their thinking.

That is why both of them accept life as it comes, enjoy the moment casually and playfully and do not let today's happiness be burdened by thoughts of an uncertain tomorrow.

You are impulsive, flexible and curious, practical and pragmatic. They have excellent powers of observation, take in the facts and details of their environment quickly and directly, and are thoroughly realistic.

Thanks to their factual, uncomplicated and literal language, they can understand each other well.

They are logical and objective in their decisions and rarely allow themselves to be carried away into emotional overreactions.

They complement each other in a pleasant way and are generally popular. The always funny one ESD provides sparkling entertainment and brings his enthusiasm and social security, and the always optimistic IDS has a stabilizing effect due to its unshakable calm.

IDS can deal with the partner's help opening up and sharing his / her innermost thoughts and reactions is introduced into society by the partner and gains a larger circle of acquaintances.

ESD can be done with the help of the partner calm down, pause and think before acting; is thereby stimulated to be more planned, to concentrate the considerable energy on fewer projects and to stick to his / her obligations.

The potential for frustration

ESD are very active on the outside and become restless if they have nothing to do for a long period of time. You act very impulsively, hardly take time to think about the consequences and can quickly get into unpleasant situations that could easily have been avoided.
IDS are more inward and closed, can be calmer and easier to keep still. You need a lot of time to yourself, so that your partner often feels neglected.

ESD feel good when they can be around and talk to people a lot. They tend to chat animatedly, immediately saying what they think, and think by talking. It can therefore easily happen that they carelessly pass on private information about their partners.
IDS only become talkative when it comes to something that interests them. They do not like superficial chatter and tire them. If ESD-Partners feel they have to pull out every piece of information and they want to engage in a conversation, feel IDS uncomfortably harassed because they are supposed to talk about something that they haven't had enough thought about or that doesn't interest them from the outset.

It is very natural that there are times when ESD would like to have less social activities, and other times when IDS Feels like talking. If the two succeed in using and “synchronizing” this natural counter-movement, that is, sometimes meeting with friends and sometimes enjoying quiet times as a couple, their relationship will be very beneficial.

Both are internally thought-oriented and shy away from communicating their innermost feelings. Because they want to avoid mutual injuries that would be very uncomfortable for them. You can cultivate your emotional connection by sometimes consciously taking the time to talk calmly and openly about your feelings. This emotional connection can be of great benefit to them when strong feelings break out in times of crisis and disrupt the relationship.

Both often just taking things as they come and overlooking adverse effects. If you take the time to look beyond what is currently evident and think about the causes and possible solutions to problems, you can avoid some inconveniences.

Both do not like to do housework, everyday organization or household finances. But they are necessary so that at least one has to deal with them. If you agree on a fair and equitable division of labor from the outset and don't have to fight each other first, you can avoid a lot of frustration and resentment.

On the bulletin board:

Dear IDS partner (ISTP)

I understand and respect your need for seclusion and I want to leave you a lot of time for yourself.

I am willing to forego social activities again and again in order to be able to enjoy a quiet time with you.

In view of my talkativeness, I have to be careful never to give personal information about you to third parties.

I have the impression that I sometimes annoy you with my many questions. I want to limit that. Also, after a question, I want to wait patiently for you to answer, because you want to think carefully about each answer.

In our conversations, I also have to avoid interrupting you again and again in mid-sentence and completing the sentence myself.

I appreciate how attentive you are when we're together. I should thank you more often for that.

Dear ESD partner (ESTP)

I make up my mind not to just disappear when I need time to think, but to tell you.

I don't want to press you, but sometimes I want to approach you, share my thoughts, reactions and feelings with you, and occasionally start a discussion.

I plan to go to social gatherings with you as often as possible. But if I don't feel like it, I'll ask you to go out without me.

I appreciate all of the resourceful things you do to help me. I should thank you expressly for this more often.

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ISTP in relation to ESFP

IDS_ESF

ISTP = IDS =I.introverted D.Environment orientation with auxiliary function S.inner sensation

ESFP = IT F = E.xtraverted S.inner orientation with auxiliary function F.cool

Positive aspects

Both are actionists (outwardly spontaneously sensory-oriented), have both feet firmly on the ground, are fun-loving, want to get out of life what is possible and are wide awake for what is around them, in the here and now, in front of them goes. They are realistic and practical, stick to concrete facts, pay close attention to details, take everything literally and rely on common sense. They therefore have a good basis to understand one another, to accept each other's individual differences and to respect their views and points of view, even if they do not always agree.

Both are uncomplicated, relaxed and informal, modest and adaptable and reluctant to be imposed or forced into structures.

What the partner values ​​about ESF / ESFP:

Warm, loving, sociable; generally popular, large circle of friends; sincere compassion, exceptional skill in dealing with and talking to people; understanding, compliant, looking after and cherishing the partner with pleasure.

What the partner values ​​about IDS / ISTP:

Serene, calm, independent, self-controlled; extremely pragmatic, very logical; willing to take risks, unwavering, especially in stressful situations and times of crisis.

ESF can with the help of the partner learn to pause more often and think more objectively, no longer take everything so personally, no longer feel hurt so often in his / her feelings; to slow down; to think first and then to talk; not feeling compelled to please others so much.

IDS can with the help of the partner perceive and express their feelings better; become more cautious and polite; can better appreciate what they have; care more about people who mean something to them.

The potential for frustration

IT F are very sociable and like to have lots of people around them day in and day out, both outside and at home. They are very active and busy and feel good when it is fun and lively. You find your partner's seclusion frustrating; it would be so nice if he or she participated.
IDS live much more withdrawn and have a strong need for peace and solitude. They do not want to take part in the lively family activities of their ESF-knitted partners, on the contrary, they find it stressful and use - if they cannot find a place to retreat at home - every opportunity to escape this business.

IT F are very sensitive people, warm-hearted and open to the feelings and needs of others. They are very keen on harmony and therefore try to avoid conflicts with a lot of diplomacy (which from the partner's point of view often appears as a lack of openness). As a result of this need for harmony and conflict aversion, ESF are not very assertive (another point of criticism from the partner side).
IDS are taciturn logicians, value openness and seldom say something they don't really mean. They find it annoying that their partner always reacts so hurt to a well-meant constructive criticism. They see no logical justification for emotional reactions and keep urging their partner impatiently to calm down. This emphasis on logic can make them appear superior and a little disdainful.

IT F are very helpful and caring and generous in attending to the needs of others. They have a strong need to get their feelings off their feet, are looking for a patient, accepting listener and are frustrated when the partner always presents a logical explanation and solution and thus considers the matter to be over. ESF also long for familiar closeness and intimacy.
IDS are much more distant when dealing with people and have little understanding of the cooperative willingness to help with which their partners respond to the problems and needs of others. With their clear, direct and objective attitude, they can be quite insensitive without wanting or noticing it and experienced as callous and callous. IDS find it very difficult to engage with the emotional needs of others and find that their partners are often too clingy and seeking help.

Both like to relax in a comfortable and cozy home, but nobody likes to bother with the necessary housework. Traditionally, it will ultimately be up to the woman to do more than a fair share of the housework. If the woman is ESF, she will feel underappreciated, if she is IDS, she will complain about the injustice.

On the bulletin board:

Dear ESF partner (ESFP)

I make up my mind (although it takes some effort) to take part in your socializing as often as possible, but ask you not to take my word for it, but mostly to go out without me.

I want to listen to you patiently and understandingly when you feel the need to pour your heart out. I want to be a helpful, calming soundboard for you, especially when you are overworked or excited. I will make a conscious effort to just listen and not come straight away with explanations and advice.

I won't reject your feelings even if I don't understand or share them.

I will also try to share my feelings with you.

I appreciate it and am grateful to you that you take such good care of me and our family and that you take care of our needs. I also want to express my gratitude by taking on a fair share of the housework on my own initiative and on a permanent basis.

I should keep in mind that logic is not necessarily the last resort, but that there is also a logic of the heart that can often be much more accurate. I want to make sure that I bring a loving, cautious and gentler touch to my speech and behavior.

Dear IDS partner (ISTP)

I respect your need to be alone a lot. Please feel free to devote yourself extensively to your interests. I understand it and will support you in it too.

Of course, it will also be good for our relationship and I will appreciate it if you limit your tendency to occupy yourself too much with people and things outside of our home and our relationship.

I appreciate the many little things that you do - without saying much - to show your love and devotion. I should thank you for that more often.

When you start a conversation, I'll pause what I'm doing to give you my full attention. I won't interrupt you or ask too many questions.

Despite my need for harmony, I will speak openly and honestly about problems and worries and express my feelings and needs calmly and clearly.

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IDS in relation to EDS  //  ISTP in relation to ESTJ

EDS_IDS)

ESTJ = EDS = E.xtraverted D.Environment orientation with auxiliary function S.inner sensation

ISTP = IDS =I.introverted D.Environment orientation with auxiliary function S.inner sensation

Positive aspects

Both are primarily thought-oriented, enjoy being on an intellectual level, are cool, don't take things easily, and can make constructive suggestions to each other without feeling hurt. Both feel uncomfortable when confronted with feelings in themselves or in others.

Both are secondary sense-oriented. They are practical and realistic and usually accept things as they are presented. You love physical activity, enjoy being in the great outdoors and are enthusiastic about active sports.
The sensory orientation of the EDS is more introverted and leads to a traditional and cautious attitude. IDS react spontaneously, impulsively and with presence of mind to external sensory impressions and therefore have the courage to demand everything and to explore their limits.

What the partner values ​​about IDS / ISTP:

Casual, uncomplicated, serene and relaxed; able and ready to adapt to the constant changes in life.

What the partner values ​​about EDS / ESTJ:

Energetic, efficient, responsible and friendly; self-confident appearance in society; able and ready to do a tremendous daily workload.

IDS can with the help of the partner become more focused, responsible and productive; accept additional challenges in his / her work; go out of yourself and share his / her thoughts; expand social activities.

EDS can with the help of the partner slow down, become more spontaneous; also pay attention to experimental processes; gain more experience and enjoy life.

The potential for frustration

E.DS are sociable and talkative, I.DS withdrawn and silent.
EDS can feel left out and left alone with IDS keeping their thoughts and reactions to themselves.
IDS can feel pressured and restricted in their need for silence and reflection when EDS talk so much.

Both don't like to talk about their feelings. They show their love through behavior rather than words. Since they avoid looking for the emotional causes of problems and talking openly about them, these aspects that are so important for the relationship often remain unsolved, but are virulent in the unconscious. This can lead to deep bitterness.

Serious and very frustrating divergences can result from the attitude towards the outside world
at EDS is characterized by the extraverted judgment, especially thought orientation,
at IDS however, through the extraverted perception orientation, above all through the immediate and spontaneously reactive reference to the external sensory impressions.

EDS approach the demands of the world and society very responsibly and seriously and have a strong need to exercise control. They are very reliable, work hard and are also committed to tasks and work that are beyond the scope and scope of their obligations.
IDS are very independent people with a strong desire for freedom. With a lot of courage and a thirst for adventure, they like to pursue daring and dangerous hobbies, which they usually master with flying colors due to their fabulous responsiveness.
EDSwho judge strongly in categories of right and wrong, right and wrong, can easily find their fun-loving IDS partners unreliable and irresponsible.
IDS can feel marginalized by their partner if they cannot gain anything from playing and having fun together because of all the work.

EDS have a strong need for order and speedy execution, therefore push for quick decisions and expect others to adhere to them and help to implement them.
IDS want to have a free hand to take advantage of opportunities and therefore want to keep their options open as long as possible in order to be able to react promptly to new information.

Under these conditions, a conflict-prone “parent-child” relationship can suddenly develop. EDS tend to point out the negligence and negligence of the partner, and IDS feel petty, criticized and patronized.

On the bulletin board:

Dear IDS partner (ISTP)

I am ready to give you a lot of freedom. I also promise you not to expect any “accountability” for your activities and not to control you.

I adjust to your hobbies and interests in a positive way. I would like to learn something about it and I am willing to work with you if you wish, but I am happy to let you act alone if you prefer.

I will respect it if you want to withdraw in order to process your experiences in your mind. I will listen to you with interest if you want to tell me, but I will not urge you to tell me more than you want to tell from yourself.

I will be happy if you accompany me to social activities, but I will not urge you to go with me if you don't feel like it.

I am ready to spontaneously respond to your often surprising wishes, for example when it comes to sex under unusual circumstances.

I will not react impatiently to your curiosity and the constant search for new experiences and I will not try to determine something too quickly.

Dear EDS partner (ESTJ)

I will be more ready than before to speak openly with you about what is going on in me and to share my thoughts and reactions with you.

I will be more scrupulous about my commitments, and if I say I will do something, I will do it too.

I respect your need for order and cleanliness, especially in the shared living area, and will permanently take on a fair share of the housework.

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IDS in relation to EFS  //  ISTP in relation to ESFJ

EFS_IDS)

ESFJ = EFS = E.xtraverted GefOcular orientation with auxiliary function S.inner sensation

ISTP = IDS =I.introverted D.Environment orientation with auxiliary function S.inner sensation

Positive aspects

Both are realistic, practical and reasonable, have both feet firmly on the ground and pay close attention to the concrete facts and details. They rely primarily on their own experiences and are skeptical of new or unproven ideas. Both are sporty and enjoy being in the great outdoors.

Both are conscious of tradition and often have very conservative values. Assuming the same worldview, this leads to great community and solidarity.

What the partner values ​​about IDS (ISTP):
Independence, unshakable calm, thirst for knowledge, authenticity and the uncomplicated manner; the ability to react and adapt quickly; the versatile craftsmanship and technical skills.

What the partner values ​​about EFS (ESFJ):
Warmth, sociability, enthusiasm; Self-discipline, commitment; the cordial manner in social interaction and the ability to understand other people's feelings and motivations.

IDS can with the help of the partner become gentler, gentler, and more compassionate; have better contact with the important people in his / her life; gain greater trust in people; better express your own needs and feelings.

EFS can with the help of the partner Slow down, become more objective, no longer be so dependent on the opinions and needs of others; will no longer stick to plans so rigidly.

The potential for frustration

EFS, extraverted and emotional, need a lot of sociable stimulation, like to talk, make phone calls or often meet up with friends to chat and discuss the long and broad. You also long for extensive and intimate conversations with your partner.
IDS - introverted, thoughtful and pragmatic - are taciturn people of action and need a lot of time on their own in order to be able to pursue their interests and projects in a concentrated manner. They have little access to their innermost emotional area and feel uncomfortably touched when the partner tries to penetrate too deeply into the personal in a confidential, emotional conversation.

EFS need a deep emotional connection with the people they love in order to feel happy and secure. That is why they can feel quite lonely when the partner finds it so difficult to communicate his or her feelings that unnoticed and unintentionally a somewhat cool-looking distance arises.
IDSThose who have a strong need for authenticity and naturalness always perceive emotional impulses and reactions to be a little exaggerated and inappropriate and are therefore reluctant to get involved.

EFS On the other hand, they are so sensitive to disturbances in emotional harmony that they try to avoid conflict-prone topics or try to circumvent them diplomatically.
IDSThose who are used to discussing problems and conflicts openly and emotionlessly become even more suspicious of this dual track of emotional vulnerability and the lack of openness on the part of the EFS partners.

It's paradoxical - but the less yourself EFS prove to be emotionally needy and demanding, the more attractive and engaging they are to their IDS partners - and the gentler and more open-minded they are IDS Turning to the partners, the calmer and more relaxed your EFS partners will be.

EFS approach environmental design rationally (eF). You want everything to be clean and tidy, you push for quick decisions, you do everything quickly and according to plan and you keep appointments and appointments punctually.
IDS are much more relaxed, informal and uncomplicated, enjoy life as it comes and avoid restrictive structures and programs in order to be able to react flexibly and appropriately to the demands of the day (eS).

EFS have a lot of work to meet their expectations of order and cleanliness and their planned daily workload and are often annoyed when their IDS partners consider this unnecessary and stay out of it.
IDS get annoyed when their EFS partners resist any spontaneous suggestion or adventurous idea that does not fit into their daily schedule.
EFS feel overwhelmed and left alone with housework and IDS feel criticized and driven. And the more hectic and demanding EFS become, the more dragging on IDS back.

On the bulletin board:

Dear IDS partner (ISTP)

You have a strong need to devote yourself to your interests and projects alone and in peace. I want to help you find the time for it. Most of all, I will rarely ask you to attend any social gathering that I want to attend.

I will respect your privacy.

I will give you plenty of time to think about important matters and feelings before we talk about them.

But I will listen to you carefully and attentively and, to this end, I will interrupt what I am doing. I will remember that you usually only say something once and you are unlikely to repeat it.

If I want to discuss something or have questions, I will wait patiently for your answers because I know that you want to think carefully about what you are saying. Above all, I will not immediately think that something is wrong if you don't say anything.

I like to act practically and according to plan and want to advance something. When you go out of yourself, you are more spontaneous. That's why I want to be more flexible and spontaneously take part in some of the adventures you suggest. But I will also be ready to enjoy quiet times with you if you feel like it.

I know that it would annoy you and hurt you a lot if I passed on intimate information to third parties. That's why I want to take special care that this doesn't happen to me.

Dear EFS partner, dear EFS partner (ESFJ)

I usually don't feel good in company. But I will try to accompany you to as many social occasions as I can. If I'm too tired I'll tell you so you don't take it personally.

I will make an effort to get out of myself and share my thoughts, feelings, and needs with you, especially if they affect our relationship. I will also tell you what I like to like.

As a thinking type, I have to make sure that my reactions and feedback are not critical, but rather cautious and loving. I will focus more on the positive and also express my satisfaction and happiness.

I am very grateful to you for ensuring that everything runs smoothly in so many ways. I want to tell you this more often, but above all to show that I help out around the house more than before.

You put a lot more emphasis on birthdays and other memorial days than I do. I want to memorize important dates or, even better, save them and think of an inventive and suitable gift early on.

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IDS in relation to ENF

IDS_ENF

ISTP = IDS =I.introverted D.Environment orientation with auxiliary function S.inner sensation

ENFP = ENF = E.xtraverted I.nOrientation towards tuition with auxiliary function F.cool

Positive aspects

The common basis of these two is the perception-oriented and relaxed lifestyle based on the extraverted sensory orientation (eS) IDS and the extraverted intuition orientation (eN) ENF.
Both spontaneously use opportunities and experiences as they arise. Both have an informal and uncomplicated household, treat others with a non-judgmental attitude and are not interested in controlling or dominating others.

What the partner values ​​about ENF (ENFP):
Warmth, humor, creativity, open-mindedness; Enthusiasm, social routine, an abundance of creative ideas; the ability to express yourself very well in words.

What the partner values ​​about IDS (ISTP):
Calm, simplicity, independence; natural attitude to the body, thirst for adventure; the tendency to express his / her love in actions and behavior rather than words.

ENF can with the help of the partner relax better, enjoy the moment, take some risk, be less worried about the future and other people's opinions; can be more involved in physical and sporting experiences, be more guided by logic when making decisions and will no longer take everything so personally.

IDS can with the help of the partner Communicate more freely, become more sensitive to the maintenance and deepening of important relationships, who see patterns and connections behind the immediate experiences, recognize the future effects of their actions.

The potential for frustration

IDS live very withdrawn and find it pleasant to do things alone or with a few friends that everyone enjoys. They are very taciturn, rarely start conversations on their own and seldom repeat themselves.
ENF like to spend their time in good company and have a large group of friends. They are very talkative and have a strong need to express their feelings, reactions, and ideas.
IDS find the many talks and questions from their partners often intrusive.
ENF Often feel isolated and excluded in the relationship because the partner speaks so little.

The thought-oriented IDS are logical, analytical, and almost always dispassionate. They stay calm even when others around them are emotional and excited. They respond strongly to sensory impressions (eS) and are usually looking for physical and sexual intimacy as a prelude to emotional connection.

The emotional ones ENF usually react much more personally and want to talk long and in detail about their feelings. They usually need emotional attunement as a prelude to sexual intimacy.

The sensory ones IDS prefer to deal with concrete, practical things and tasks. You get restless and switch off when your partner comes up with theoretical and personal topics.

The intuitive ones ENF prefer to deal with spiritual and theoretical backgrounds and contexts and find everything banal and boring that lacks depth, creativity and a personal relationship.

IDS are activists (eS) who react very quickly and for whom physical challenges and risks are an essential prerequisite for experiencing their own worth and enjoying life to the full. They love the thrill of acute danger and are ready to play a daring game to take their chances.

ENF They prefer to take intellectual, emotional and professional risks (eN), but are more cautious from a physical point of view, because they always see the possibilities and always expect misfortune and catastrophes. They are often worried about their IDS partners and warn them to be careful, but are mostly ignored or contradicted and do not feel that they are being taken seriously.

Although have IDS and ENF the perception-oriented, relaxed lifestyle together (eS and eN) and feel very comfortable in a relaxed and freely configurable environment.It would be expected that they would not let themselves be bothered by clutter and would find the daily routine of housework boring. At ENF is this actually true.
But with IDS logical thinking as the dominant function (ID) has such a strong influence that they want a home in which there is more order. But they still don't like housework.
After all, housework will traditionally fall to the woman, even if both are employed, and she will feel exploited and treated unfairly unless the partners agree on a fair division of labor.

On the bulletin board:

Dear ENF partner (ENFP)

I'll tell you when I need some alone time and why, so you don't mistakenly mistake it for a personal rejection.

I want to listen carefully and patiently to your stories and try to remember some details about important people you are telling about.

I plan to tell you more often about details and events of my day and also talk about my feelings and reactions.

It's amazing how many original ideas you have.

I know that like almost all extraverts, when you talk, the best thoughts come to you. That's why I want to listen to you with pleasure and attentively and not even switch off when you repeat yourself.

I am grateful to you for everything you do to provide for our families and to make our lives meaningful.

Dear IDS partner (ISTP)

I am aware that for you actions are more expressive than words. That's why, instead of talking a lot, I prefer to do something meaningful. I just want to do it and resist the urge to point it out to you.

I value your affection, but I also know that you don't like to show your affection through words, but rather through what you do.

If you tell me something, I will listen carefully to you. I'll pause what I'm doing specifically to give you my full attention.

When I tell you something, I will make sure to speak calmly and concisely. I will be brief and avoid repetition.

I know that you need the adrenaline rush of life and that you can take it. That is why I will resist the urge to groom you or to suffocate you with my care.

I know that you are a person who says the right word at the right time. So I'll wait and give you the time to explain things when you see fit.

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IDS in relation to EFN

IDS_EFN

ISTP = IDS =I.introverted D.Environment orientation with auxiliary function S.inner sensation

ENFJ = EFN = E.xtraverted GefOcular orientation with auxiliary function I.ntuition

Positive aspects

This relationship comes about according to the principle "opposites attract". The two are probably fascinated by the question of what moves the other. In any case, you will be faced with the challenge of finding a satisfactory common basis in life.

What the partner values ​​about EFN (ENFJ):
Enthusiasm, warmth, high energy level, mental agility, optimism; empathetic understanding; Eloquence.

What the partner values ​​about IDS (ISTP):
cool calm thoughtfulness; very factual, honest, straightforward; exudes a calm self-confidence.

EFN can with the help of the partner learn not to take things so personally; to find a balance between what he / she likes and what others like; can step backwards, live more in the present moment, and better appreciate the simple joys in life.

IDS can with the help of the partner Understand and deepen personal and professional relationships better, empathize better with other people and better express one's own feelings; can look for more subtle meanings behind things.

The potential for frustration

IDS - introverted and thought-oriented - are very withdrawn, sometimes aloof people. As thinking types, they can be quite insensitive at times. When they find something boring, they often withdraw, sometimes only emotionally, sometimes also physically.
EFN - extroverted and emotional - are sociable, talkative and expressive. They want their partners to share their feelings too. You long for a deep emotional connection with your partner and, in connection with this, for physical intimacy.
But IDS prefer to show their love and appreciation through what they do - perhaps through petting, perhaps through often very expensive surprise gifts. For IDS it goes without saying that they love their partner. They are reluctant to have to keep saying that.

IDS are "actionists" (eS), realistic and sober, pragmatic and adaptable. In their freedom of movement, they want a life that is free from unnecessary restrictions.

EFN are "idealists" (NF) who are not satisfied with the existing, but look for new possibilities. You look behind the facade and want to understand the people and their hidden motives. They long for harmonious relationships and want to live in accordance with their personal values.

The pragmatic ones IDS believe that their EFN partners make things too exaggerated and unnecessarily complicated.
The value-oriented EFN believe that their IDS partners are not sufficiently responsible and do not develop enough future-oriented initiatives.

IDS value facts and details. When giving a report or telling a story, present the facts and details step by step, in chronological and logical order, without exaggerating or repeating themselves.
EFN highlight the main and high points, bring out the dramatic and personal elements, but often skip important details in their excitement.

If IDS When faced with a problem, look to see what can realistically be changed, do what is necessary, and close it. They find it frustrating and boring to repeat something over and over again, especially when it is beyond their immediate control and access.
If EFN experience a problem, they feel the need to talk about it at length. They do not expect their partners to offer a solution to the problem immediately, but rather to listen with understanding.

Are in their outer lifestyle IDS perception-oriented (eS), EFN however, judgment-oriented (eF).

IDS are informal and uncomplicated, are reluctant to be restricted by plans, because they want to remain flexible in order to be able to react spontaneously to the moment. They are inquisitive and need a lot of information before making a decision. They keep their options open as long as possible.

EFN value a well-organized and clean home, especially because the external impression is important to them. You want to be productive and are constantly on your toes. You like to make plans and want others to stick to them too. They often insist that things happen the way they want and can also be opinionated.

IDS rarely share their partners' ideas about what is urgent, and when they feel controlled or pressured they tend to distance themselves even more and become even more taciturn than usual.

In this relationship, it will take a lot of patience, adjustment and commitment to achieve a satisfying and respectful togetherness.

On the bulletin board:

Dear IDS partner (ISTP)

I know you need a lot of time to think and won't rush to talk.

If you say something, I'll interrupt what I'm doing and give you all of my attention.

Please feel free to pursue the activities and friendships that you enjoy, also on your own.

I appreciate your cleverness and competence and will be happy to talk to you about the logical consequences of my actions and to seek your advice.

When we discuss something, I will be careful to present the facts clearly and calmly and not to exaggerate or over-dramatize.

I will tell you specifically what I want from you and when I actually need it.

I will not insist that things happen the way I want, but more flexibly pay attention to what is important and what is not worth the effort. I will also be ready to experiment and try new things.

Dear EFN partner, dear EFN partner (ENFJ)

Please feel free to seek out the social stimuli that you need and want. I will be happy to accompany you sometimes.

I want to listen carefully and acceptingly when you talk about your feelings, and I will not dismiss your feelings as meaningless even if I do not understand or understand them.

I also want to express my own feelings and not expect you to guess them by yourself.

I appreciate the understanding and support you give me. I should thank you for that more often.

I want to tackle chores and projects on my own initiative and do them quickly.

I will do my best to keep promises and commitments and be on time. If I see I'm late I'll call you.

I know you need someone who will listen to you patiently. I want to do that and listen carefully even if your stories are sometimes a little awkward and dramatic.

When I tell something myself, I will try to include facts and details, especially about the people I speak of.

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IDS in relation to END

IDS_END

ISTP = IDS =I.introverted D.Environment orientation with auxiliary function S.inner sensation

ENTP = END = E.xtraverted I.nOrientation towards tuition with auxiliary function D.think

Positive aspects

Both are thought-oriented (iD), logical, analytical, open and honest and tend to make decisions based on factual and logical criteria. They respect each other in their independence and do not tend to control their partners or press them to do something they did not want to do. Sometimes they tease each other or express constructive criticism without the partner being offended or hurt in his (her) feelings.

Both have a relaxed and informal approach to life (eS and eN) and are uncomplicated, adaptable, playful, sometimes disrespectful and rarely formal. They love to follow their impulses on the fly, want to see and learn as much of the world as they can, find fun at every opportunity, and rarely worry about what others think of them.

What the partner values ​​about END (ENTP):
Very clever, funny and charming; uninhibited and self-confident in almost any environment; quick mind and almost limitless creative energy.

What the partner values ​​about IDS (ISTP):
Objective, modest; exudes calm confidence, often has impressive technical knowledge and extraordinary calm and steadfastness, especially under pressure or in a crisis.

END can with the help of the partner Slow down, use his / her energy and versatile talents more selectively; Pay more attention to important details and realities, which makes his / her ideas more practical.

IDS can with the help of the partner to focus on what lies behind the obvious and thus broaden his / her horizons; can search for connections and recognize the deeper meaning; go out into the world of conviviality more readily; Filling life with energy and intellectual stimulation.

The potential for frustration

IDS - the introverted thinking types with a strong connection to physical reality - live very withdrawn and need a lot of time for themselves in order to be able to carry out their projects and activities, in which their body is actively used, without interruption or influence from other people .
They are taciturn people of action who say everything calmly and usually only once. The constant talking and asking their partners can sometimes get on their nerves.

END - the extraverted and thought-oriented intuition types - are very sociable, have a wide and varied circle of friends and maintain lively contacts with acquaintances and colleagues. They are always ready and eager to initiate new social contacts and relationships and would be terribly bored and irritated if they had to spend a long time alone. They lose their energy and their fabulous vitality if they don't get enough around people or if they feel left out of their partners' lives.
They love lively conversations and often get it started themselves. Because they think best while they are talking, they need to talk a lot. On the other hand, they find it difficult to listen and as a result they can miss out on important information, especially messages from their IDS partners, which are usually said quietly and only once.

The two respect each other in their autonomy, but that would not be enough for a close emotional relationship. However, when they learn to admit to one another their hidden fears and vulnerabilities, they come into contact with their feelings and can create a deep and lasting bond.

Another hurdle is their different temperaments.
IDS are spontaneous actionists (eS) and free thinkers (iD),
END on the other hand rationalists (ND) and inquisitive intellectuals (iD).

IDS seek above all knowledge of the real, physical world and strive for physical abilities and skills as well as fine motor mastery. Your philosophy of life is the principle of "live-and-let-live".
END strive for competence and mastery in the intellectual world, especially in the field of psychology and personnel policy.

END like to talk about possibilities and ideas and prefer theoretical discussions, but those for IDS are mostly frustrating and boring.
IDS prefer topics about concrete and practical things, which, however, have the END-Partners are mostly too literal and boring.

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Dear END partner, dear END partner (ENTP)

I will be willing to take part in some of your many social outings, but ask you to go alone if I'm too tired or not interested.

I am also ready to respond to some of your more unusual suggestions and have confidence in your ingenuity and instinctive flair.

I will listen to your stories with interest and stimulation and try to support you with your many ideas. I will resist the urge to look for and point out specific errors in your inspirations.

I admire how quickly you think and how accurately you recognize connections.

I don't want to be too taciturn and try more often to tell you what I think and what happened during the day.

Dear IDS partner (ISTP)

I know and respect that your withdrawn nature is of your type.

I will not urge you to join me on social occasions often.If you come with me, I will appreciate and not fail to introduce you to people who have interests similar to yours.

I will also take precautions, for example through separate driving opportunities so that you can go home at any time when you have enough or are tired. But I also want to divide my time so that I can stay at home more often and spend a quiet time with you as a couple.

I will be interested in your hobbies and get involved if you want.

I respect your private sphere and will not pass on any information about you to other people, unless you expressly agree in individual cases.

I want to pay attention to facts and present them openly and clearly. I will try to be specific.

I will adjust to your more deliberate pace when I explain my ideas and plans and will describe them as clearly and specifically as possible. In doing so, I will try to go step by step and not to skip important facts.

I also try to adjust to your focused and ongoing mindset and will make sure to make a clear transition if I want to change the subject and move on to something completely different.

I appreciate and admire your common sense and your accurate and practical way of thinking.

I am very happy about the imaginative actions and gestures with which you repeatedly express your affection and love.

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IDS in relation to EDN

IDS_EDN

ISTP = IDS =I.introverted D.Environment orientation with auxiliary function S.inner sensation

ENTJ = EDN = E.xtraverted D.Orientation with auxiliary function Intuition

Positive aspects

IDS and EDN have the primary thought orientation in common, the desire for logic, the need for independence, the striving for efficiency. They want to understand the principles at work in the world and they use to analyze things objectively. They are open, honest, emotionally self-controlled and can give and accept constructive criticism without being hurt in their feelings. Most of all, their relationship thrives on an intellectual level where they respect, value, and support one another.

What the partner values ​​about EDN (ENTJ):
The great self-confidence, his / her energy and enthusiasm; the quick thinking, the brilliant ideas; the ability to start large projects and get other people involved in his / her plans; the determination to see that something is done.

What the partner values ​​about IDS (ISTP):
the uncomplicated, calm and casual manner; the sober realism; the natural understanding of the physical world; the ability to have fun without much planning or fuss.

EDN can with the help of the partner pay more attention to important facts and details and thereby better realize his (her) many ideas; can slow down; enjoy the present moment instead of constantly pursuing plans and dreams for the future; can learn to loosen control of the environment a little and reset his (her) standards to a more realistic level.

IDS can with the help of the partner